Evolution of Medicine Podcast
New Models of Naturopathic Medicine

Episode #24

New Model Week: Naturopathic Medicine

Whilst at Naturopathic Medical School, Dr. Sara DeFrancesco realized there weren't many options for NDs emerging from school. Either become an employee on salary (making little impact on her student loan debt) or take a position working for another doctor and lose a large percentage of her earnings disappear. Was there another way?

Sara DeFrancesco

So, Dr. DeFrancesco created a new path and a new practice, called Thriving Force Natural Medicine. She has learned from a diverse groups of organizations, not only other providers with more business savvy, but also some of our work at the Evolution of Medicine. We are excited to feature young doctors looking to break the mold and attract the top graduates into integrative medicine.

On this podcast you will learn

  • The systemic problems of business training for doctors
  • The top things that Dr. DeFrancesco has learned along the way
  • Empowering news for those looking to follow in her footsteps

Direct download: EoM_Podcast_with_Fiona_and_Sarah.mp3
Category:health, alternative health -- posted at: 3:47pm CDT

Creating a Thinking Environment

Dr. Donna Embree has been practicing a Naturopathic Doctor since the mid 1990s, before that she was a childhood educator. Over the last 20 years, Dr. Embree has taught doctors and other practitioners in holistic, bioenergetic and integrative medicine. One area of her teaching that is unique surround best practices in the patient / practitioner relationship.

As our medical model evolves to treat chronic and autoimmune diseases, getting patient 'compliance' and engagement is key. There are many strategies that are being used, but none are as effective as creating a "Thinking Environment", which comes from Nancy Kline's book "Time to Think". These strategies can also be used very effectively for creating great communication in your staff team.


What you will learn from this podcast:

  • Why a "Thinking Environment" is crucial for optimal communication
  • Why a thinking patient is a 'compliant' patient
  • Ways to use this for better team communication
Direct download: Creating_a_Thinking_Environment_with_Donna_Embree.mp3
Category:health, alternative health -- posted at: 3:24pm CDT

The Evolution of Sex Therapy

One of our favorite regulars at the Functional Forum in NYC is TheSexMD, psychiatrist Dr. Madeleine Castellanos. Her new book Wanting to Want gets into some of the most interesting areas of medical evolution that reflect her unique practice, like functional medicine and mind/body medicine.

As the link between sexual health and overall health becomes more and more clear, having skills and capacity to help with these issues is important for any truly holistic medical practice. Last week’s podcasts on vulnerability are very relevant in this area as well. Will you be trusted enough for your patients to open up in this area?


What you will learn:

  • Why the mind / body connection is key to evolution of sexual health
  • Our new understanding of placebo and how to maximize it
  • Physical factors that influence optimal sexual health

Disrupting Therapy: Vulnerability at Scale

Back in June, my room mate at MindBodyGreen's Revitalize conference was "The Angry Therapist", John Kim. He is a licensed family therapist and has such an interesting story and mission, and is on a mission to disrupt therapy as we know it using a combination of technology and community.

Check out his great talk from Revitalize, definitely the funniest talk of the weekend!

What you will learn

  • Why technology has the potential to disrupt therapy as we currently know it
  • How John's vulnerability on his blog launched his brand (and what we can all learn)
  • The important role of exercise in optimal mental health and how to inspire it in patients

Radical Vulnerability: Developing Trust

Episode #18

Dr. Leana Wen is on a mission to change medicine. That road can be a little bumpy, especially when you ask physicians to change the way they practice. If her book, 'When Doctors Don't Listen' caused a stir among her colleagues, her ideas about physician openness opened the door to outrageous online abuse. Check out her amazing talk from TEDMED 2014!

This week on the Functional Forum we are talking about vulnerability in medicine. In this podcast Dr Wen argues, and we 100% agree, that physicians need to learn to be vulnerable with patients as it is in the only, and quickest, way to develop trust with patients. In the infectious disease model, this was not a necessary skill, but as medicine evolves to treat the causes of modern epidemics, this is an idea whose time has come.

What you will learn

  • How the physician community reacted to her calls for more transparency
  • 3 strategies for developing trust quickly with patients
  • What Functional Medicine can learn about selling supplements with integrity

Everest Learning Academy

This is our most exciting story of our podcast so far! We welcome Dr. Adiel Tel-Oren to the show, as well as Kathleen McManis. Dr Tel-Oren is a Functional Medicine doctor that travels extensively lecturing and holding skin lesion removal clinics of which the proceeds go to support his humanitarian efforts in Nepal. The Everest Learning Academy is a network of schools, community outreaches, orphanages, and day care centers that educate, nurture, and protect thousands of disadvantaged children in remote villages from child trafficking, prostitution and slavery.


Recently, ELA was awarded status as an international Non-Governmental Organization, an honorary level given to other organizations such as Greenpeace, Peace Corps, and Amnesty International. Dr. Tel-Oren utilizes functional, dietary, clinical, and nutritional medicine plus special therapeutic modalities and in-depth detoxification protocols. Our work together is a reflection of functional medicine and energetic therapies in anti-aging, healing psoriasis, herpes and HPV, and optimal skin health.

Kathleen McManis comes to us live from Nepal as she shares what it is like being on the ground, being able to support this amazing project. Learn more about at nepali-children.org.

What you will learn

  • The Everest Learning Academy and its important role in helping children in Nepal
  • Dr Tel-Oren's unique journey to Functional Medicine via vaccine reaction
  • The important role of sulfur in detoxification and a unique source that helps kids
Direct download: 17-Everest_Learning_Academy_with_Dr._Adiel_Tel-Oren.mp3
Category:health, alternative health -- posted at: 11:00am CDT

Solving the Sleep Epidemic

Sleep is one of the biggest areas of concern in modern medicine. Not only is lack of sleep being fingered as a leading cause of all sorts of chronic diseases, but there is an alarming lack of sleep specialists in the country to take care of these problems. As we have featured regularly in the Functional Forum or on this podcast, technology is stepping up to scale solutions to this problem.


Dr. Rachel E. Salas is an assistant professor in Neurology at Johns Hopkins in Maryland. She has been working on a new app that empowers primary care, internal medicine and other practitioners to deliver great sleep care throughout the medical system, rather than just in the office of a sleep medicine specialist.

What you will learn

  • The real costs of sleep deprivation to society
  • Why all health providers really need to get great sleep
  • The details of this new app and how to get involved
Direct download: 16-Solving_the_Sleep_Epidemic_with_Rachel_Salas.mp3
Category:health, alternative health -- posted at: 11:00am CDT

Hidden Genetic Switches

We at the Functional Forum as massive fans of Marks Daily Apple, a really practical paleo blog started by ex-professional athlete Mark Sisson. Mark has been inspiring people all over the world for a couple of decades and his blog is a natural digital extension of his core mission.


With the paleo movement now in full swing, Mark is now interested in influencing the work of doctors as well as end users.

What you will learn

  • Hidden genetic switches and lifestyle mismatch
  • The rise of paleo and the microbiome
  • Why doctors need to be part of the paleo movement
Direct download: 14-Hidden_Genetic_Switches_with_Mark_Sisson.mp3
Category:health, alternative health -- posted at: 11:00am CDT

Marketing vs Lead Flow

In the third in our special series of practice management podcasts, we looked at one of the most consistent areas of weakness for practices delivering root cause resolution medicine. Marketing. As doctors come from Western medicine they sometimes this marketing isn't necessary, but remember, pharmaceutical companies spend billions on marketing each year, driving patients to doctors by "Ask your doctor if..."


Matt, and his partner Dr Charles Webb from Freedom Practice Coaching, has been developing the "Patient Lead Flow" model for 10 years and now teach it to doctors as part of their FPC Bootcamp. Please visit fcpbootcamp.com for more information.

What you will learn

  • Why integrative doctors have a moral obligation to market heavily
  • Why marketing to a niche is crucial in connecting
  • How to pre-educate patients to set yourself up for success
Direct download: 15-Marketing_vs_Lead_Flow_with_Matt_Lowman.mp3
Category:health, alternative health -- posted at: 11:00am CDT